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Unregistered
12-11-2007, 03:22 PM
I'm still looking into the different curriculums, and so far am very interested in the Waldorf method.

I have 3 children, 7, 4, and 2. My 7 year old is currently in the 2nd grade in public school, and the 4 and 2 year old are in preschool (head start). My 4 year old is right on target with her academic program, but my 7 year old is struggling. At the beginning of 1st grade she tested in the 4th percentile for reading ability, and even now she's considered "below grade level". I switched her schools for this year, thinking it was lack of quality teachers at her first school, but she doesn't care for her second school at all. She's constantly in trouble for talking and not doing her work.

Whenever it's time for her to do schoolwork (at home or at school), she erects this mental "wall" where she feels she "can't" do the work, and just shuts down without trying. I can get her to do her work only when sitting very close to her (she'd sit on my lap if I let her.. and I do let her if I can.. mostly I have to be able to get up to chase after the toddler), but as soon as I get up and leave for 5-10 minutes, and come back, no additional problems have been answered.

I've been pondering the problem for a while, and I feel that it's time for a dramatic change of pace for her. She goes to school for 6 hours a day, then she comes home with 2+ hours of homework a night. Many times I can't find 2 hours to sit down with her in the evening, so she gets even more behind.

I've been researching the Waldorf method, and I think it's right up my ally. There is no Waldorf school in my area, so I need to homeschool. I'd like to start right after Christmas. Soo.. here's my main question..

Should I start her back at the 1st grade curriculum to have a "fresh start"? My husband feels it is a shame to move her backwards 1.5 years, and that if we stopped homeschooling that it would mess her up in regular school... but how I see it, she's already "messed up emotionally" in regular school, and if she even passes 2nd grade, the more difficult 3rd grade year is simply going to swamp her and it'll become a downward spiral.

I enjoyed school, and I want my daughter to enjoy it too. I'm thinking if we move backwards for a little while that she'll have the time to "catch her breath", and feel confident for a while instead of overwhelmed, and then we can proceed on the right foot.

There's another angle to my question as well. Since my 4 year old will be starting Kindergarten this fall (and they do letters in the public school of course), would it work to put both her and the 7 year old into the 1st grade curriculum at the same time? (they'll both be having birthdays in the summer.. 8 and 5). Of course although I feel the 4 year old is bright and capable, there is a significant age gap between them.. would it be appropriate to move the older one back and the younger one up so they'd be doing basically the same work? Would that demoralize the older one even more?

My husband feels since the 4 year old seems to be doing ok in the public system, that we should leave her there. But I feel she (and any other child) could benefit from the Waldorf method of schooling (shoot.. I wish I'd been to a Waldorf school when I was a kid!).

Thank you beforehand for any ideas :D

Unregistered
12-11-2007, 05:55 PM
I've spent a little time reading more on this site, and realize that the kindergarten cirriculum doesn't start "anywhere between 3 and 6".. it LASTS for 3 years! D'oh!

And so my 4 year old will actually spend 2 years in kindergarten to be right on track.

My 7 year old will be 8 this summer, and if I start 1st grade right after Christmas, and run all the way through summer, then she'll be ready to start 2nd grade in September, right on schedule :D

This is an awesome site, I'll be taking several days figuring out what-all is here :D

Lauri B
12-11-2007, 07:26 PM
Hello there, Friend -

I can get her to do her work only when sitting very close to her (she'd sit on my lap if I let her.. and I do let her if I can.. mostly I have to be able to get up to chase after the toddler), but as soon as I get up and leave for 5-10 minutes, and come back, no additional problems have been answered.[QUOTE]

That's pretty typical of all children under the age of 10 (or 12, in some cases).

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I enjoyed school, and I want my daughter to enjoy it too. I'm thinking if we move backwards for a little while that she'll have the time to "catch her breath", and feel confident for a while instead of overwhelmed, and then we can proceed on the right foot.

I highly recommend Donna's book Joyful Movement, it's absolutely fabulous and helps to balance when the child's been stressed intellectually. Movement is so incredibly important, even if you look at it from a "modern science" perspective (Brain Gym, etc.) Joyful Movement would give you so many terrific things to do when you bring her home after Christmas.


There's another angle to my question as well. Since my 4 year old will be starting Kindergarten this fall (and they do letters in the public school of course), would it work to put both her and the 7 year old into the 1st grade curriculum at the same time? (they'll both be having birthdays in the summer.. 8 and 5). Of course although I feel the 4 year old is bright and capable, there is a significant age gap between them.. would it be appropriate to move the older one back and the younger one up so they'd be doing basically the same work? Would that demoralize the older one even more?

You already answered this, I think, but the Waldorf schedule works with ages and not intellect. It's meant to feed the deeper needs of a child at a specific age. Children under 6, regardless of intellect, need (in the Waldorf tradition) rhythm and imitation.

I hope I've helped!

Unregistered
12-12-2007, 01:47 AM
Hi, I am also new to Waldorf and to homeschooling. I did the terrible thing of sending my 6 year old boy to a public school grade 1. As he is far away from home he had to board 4 nights of the week. On top of all this the school was run in a different language to his home language! As you can imagine emotionally he suffered, needless to say after 6 months I pulled him out - he spent the rest of the year deschooling, and resestablishing trust etc. That when we decided to homeschool. I also discovered Waldorf and think it sounds like a wonderful way to teach children. I have just purchased the Christopherus Grade 1 (my son is turning 7 this month). Anyway, what I would like to say is that my son also battles to cncentrate and only does so with me by his side. My two pennies worth would be to suggest you start your daughter in Grade 1 again and precede from there. She needs time to heal and relearn the love of learning. I find the 6 months I spent with my son, just playing and getting to know each other did us the world of good. We are now ready to start "school". Hope this helps a little.
Lisa in SA

Unregistered
12-12-2007, 11:47 AM
Thank you both very much for your kind help :) I can see I have so much to read and learn, what an incredible journey lies before my family!

Donna
12-12-2007, 09:42 PM
It occurs to me that it could be helpful for people whose children have any sort of anxiety or "issues" to go to the audio download page on the Christopherus website and download my free talk on Therapeutic Waldorf. In it I address the essence of Waldorf education - and what I consider to be its mot important gift - that of healing. It might help you all feel more relaxed as you breathe into this new adventure in learning.

http://www.christopherushomeschool.org/audio.htm

Boyceview
12-13-2007, 04:13 AM
Since my daughter left public school (UK) one year ago her enthusiasm has grown and grown. I too, am new to Waldorf and my concern was where to start my daughter grade wise. Donna advised me to stick to grade 3 and adapt the work and now I've read and looked at quite a few of her books (and others) it has dawned on me that's exactly where she should be. The skill lies in the adaption of the work and therefore with my skills - but hey spelling & grammar are boring when we could be out building camps! Lisa